Ban List Discussion

Mario here

So this is what the Spetember 1, 2010 ban list is lookiung like. i've seen it on a few websites and everyone seems to be agreeing with it. Anyways, here it is:

Banned:

Rescue Cat
Brain Control
Substitoad
heavy Storm

Limited:

Infernity Launcher
Trishula (OCG only)
Royal Oppression
Black Whirlwind
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole

Semi-Limited:

Snipe Hunter
Mystical Space Typhoon
Chaos Sorcerer
Magic Cylinder
Ojama Trio

Unlimited:

Cyber Dragon
United We Stand
Black Rose Dragon
Goblin Zombie
Treeborn Frog
Royal Decree

Now some thoughts...

For the banned cards, rescue cat and substitoad being banned shuts down some deck ideas for me, but i still have others. heavy storm is a card everyone uses so everyone has to deal with it, and i neve really cared much for brain control.

For the limited cards, for infernities i'm surprised the only thing touched is the launcher, but whatever. black whirwind and oppression are ok with me, i never really cared much for them. trishula hasn't hit us yet so thats not big deal. monster reborn and dark hole... gotta be honest, didn't see that coming. they will both be great to run. of course now that dark hole will be in the picture, starlight road is one of those cards that will probably have to be maindecked now.

For the semi-limited cards, that extra MST will replace the heavy storm. chaos sorcerer will be interesting for twilight builds. and the rest of the cards i never use, with the exception of ojama trio barely, so i dont care much for those.

For the unlimited cards, black rose dragon at 3 will be nuts, further proving my point about how starlight road will be popular this format. cyber dragon at 3 is a nice change, same with treeborn frog. the rest of the cards i dont think much about.

And thats my opinion on this list. it could still be a little different then this, but as it stands, this is where i stand.

Online Trading

Is...annoying.
Mario and I have tried it now.

We barely uploading our binders before PMs came flooding in lol.

But pretty much the worst issues I have are the rules on who sends first, and the fact that people will argue what you value your cards WHEN THEY CAME TO YOU asking for a price.
I mean, what the hell, are you trying to haggle me?
I gave you a value, offer to that value.

Geez.
Haha.

The drill that will pierce the heavens! Behold! Judgement Drill!

Deck Profile time!
Its Jon here.
I like to blow up fields.
Behold the triple field-destroyer-mega-ultra..
Rough deck that's a little unstable aha...
But working on it!

Deck list for now:

Monsters
(Trying to find room for Chaos Sorcerer, another Simorgh and Synchron Explorer)
Judgement Dragon!
Sky Scourge Norleras! x2
Phantom of Chaos x2
Ryko x 2
Lyla
Garoth
Ehren
Jain
Aurkus
Lumina
Quickdraw x 2
Dandy x 2
Spore
Debris x 2
Gorz
Morphing Jar*
Dark Simorgh
Plaguespreader
Level Eater*
Treeborn Frog*
Junk Synchron*

Spells
Charge
Recharge x2
Foolish
Trunade*
Heavy
Brain*
Reincarnation
Trade-In x 2*
Hand Destruction x 2*

Traps
Mirror Force*

Anything marked with an asterisk are cards Im having trouble with...
Do I keep them?
Ditch them?
Hmm

Well basically the deck has several strategies.

Lightsworn mill, ulitmately for Judgement.
Boom goes the field.
Dandywarrior tactics for slow advantage, stall and some synchros.
Then Debris into Dandy into Black Rose.
Boom goes the field.
Or, dump Sky Scourge into grave somehow, Phantom of Chaos...
And, well, boom goes the field and hands!
The last strategy works best when you have four lightsworns in the grave
or a Drill Warrior Loop already in the works.
Or you top-decked a Simorgh for Plague, use Phantom, drew Simorgh
and lock down the opponent from making any kind of comeback.

Hopeless Quickdraw

Jon here

So I was thinking...
Ditch Dandy
Summon Quickdraw
Synchro Drill
Ditch Sky Scourge to remove
Normal Summon Phantom of Chaos
Copy Sky Scourge
Nuke field and both players hands
The two in mine are Vayu and Sirrocco
Or a monarch, to be recycled by Drill Loop
Or something else nice.
Five card hand destruction on the opponent (optimistically)
And major pluses.

Possible with only four cards.
Or, just dump Vayu's and Sirroccos.
Nuke the field with Phantom Scourge and then Grave Synchro.

Working idea. Its being play-tested on Kaiba Corp VDS
Username is Ubermagus!
If you can host, let me know!
I used to be able to and then all of a sudden my version of the progam says, "You know what, you have an open, dedicated port to me, but Im still going to be a bitch and limit you to what ever duels you can scramble for in the lobby"

Hai guyz.

Hello.

My name is Josh Tremere, I'm friends with Mario and Jon. Ive known them for quite some time now and just decided why not join in on the fun. Ive been playing this game for 7 years now, not too serious about the game but have been picking up some steam these past few months. I have like 3 regional tops, been invited to nationals like 3 times, and multiple locals tops(although these really dont matter). I'd probably have more regional tops if I cared a bit more, and actually went to more regionals. Anyways, I will try to post whatever crazy ideas that come to my head, and put them onto here for your viewing pleasure. For now, I will leave you with a random tournament report. This was at the Belleville, Ontario Action Packed Comics btw.

Round 1
Josh(FrogFTK) v.s Jason(Samurai)
Game 1
I opened without the combo, just was missing Swap Frog. So I set a Dupe Frog, and said go. He summoned Grand Master, and the Samurai that destroys while f/d. I search out Swap, and proceed to win next turn.
Game 2
He goes first, sets 2 and basically does the same move again. I proceed to mill though my deck, and Poison Draw into a Mass Driver. I activate Mass Driver, he Dark Bribes and I recieve another Mass Driver for my hardwork and proceed to win.

Round 2
Josh v.s Random Kid(Random Crap)
Game 1
He honestly was basically new to the game, the chap was probably like 10 at most. So he went first, open lackluster. I proceeded to win my turn. He started praising me like the good lord himself saying that I was here to save the world of yugioh. I was more than happy to admit it.
Game 2
I win again off the opening. He kissed my feet afterwards, again praising the great ground I walk upon.

So Im 2-0.

Round 3
Josh v.s Zac(Warriors)
Game 1
I could tell by the passion in this guys eyes that he knew his demise was forthcoming. He was right, I gamed him opening hand.
Game 2
I finally drew into crap. Anything that could have got me game hands, got removed like a motherfucker. I mean like D.D Warriors, DD Warrior Ladys. I never knew getting beat my girls would be soo bad. Damn!
Game 3
I made up for it, and won anyways.

Round 4
Josh v.s Roy
Game 1 and 2(Lightsworn)
I win easily.

Top4 was
Me
Zac
Jason
Roy.

Me v.s Jason
Game 1
He opens with GrandMaster, Shien, and nuts. I couldnt pull it off.
Game 2
I win opening.
Game 3
Goes rather long, but it ends up him having United f/u, and random f/d. Im afraid of f/d. So I special Treeborn, summon Uni destroy it. Its a CED, I proceed to game.

Josh v.s Roy
Game 1
I draw crap, and I mean crap. He draws the nuts, Charge, Recharge, etc etc.
Game 2
I open nuts.
Game 3
He proves his deck may have bigger nuts at the time, and I lose.

I get 15 credit, pull nothing and proceed to go home and cry in the shower.

Anyways, nice to meet you. And remember to get your pet spayed and neutered.

The Sidedeck of this Format: 10 more Possible Choices

Here are 10 more possible choices for cards to use in a sidedeck for the remainder of the format:

Hanewata - Discard it from the hand to negate damage for a turn. Use only against Frog FTK.

King Tiger Wanghu - Destroys monstes with 1400 ATK and less. Attacks the heart of many top tier decks.

Consecrated Light - Stops Blackwings and Infernities completely.

Lightning Vortex - This card can come in handy against decks that swarm, particularily X-Sabers and Blackwings. Against some decks though, this card is unaffective, and thats why i don't main-deck it anymore.

Royal Oppression - If you use a deck that doesn't rely on special summoning a whole lot, then you should use this card. It stops deck that need to special summon in order to survive, which is quite a few of them.

Tuner's Scheme - Stealing your opponent's synchro monsters... it is just good.

Hero's Rule 2 - Negates anything that targets a card in the graveyard. It's particular but useful. Stops Infernity Launcher, Call of the Haunted and more.

Magic Drain - A choice against Infernities. It stops the Launcher unless they can discard a spell in the hand, which probably won't happen.

Banisher of the Radiance - If you playing a deck that isn't depending on the graveyard a ton, like gadgets and gladiator beasts, you might as well be able to ruin your opponents' graveyard plays.

Fissure - Surprisingly, it's not bad. It can destroyed those little monsters your opponent need, and destroys anything that could be in your way, particularily Consecrated Light.

Possibly a third post on the way.

Yay for idiots!

Jon here.

Okay...so I'm play testing a new deck idea last night, chaos sphere cyclone...and I go up against a kid using a Pyschic deck.

He's about to scoop when I have to tell him to use his Pyschic Borg to remove two monsters to pump it up to 2500.
He does so. And even uses Snail to attack over both my Armed Wing and Dark End.
But he also plays Brain Research Lab. That field spell that accumulates counters in place of paying life points for using Pyschic effects.
He gains two counters that turn.
I set Dandy. Going for Black Rose once he has 4 counters and burn him for 4000 damage using his own field spell.
Perfectly solid plan, Im still at 7100 and as far as I know he doesnt have Twin Sword Maurader or something ghey to screw me over.
He summons Commander, doesnt synchro, instead continues to use its effect whenever his monster battles my floaters, accumulating 5 counters in total on his field spell.
Which was an illegal move because that activates during the damage step and a field spell has no where near high enough spell speed. But it was fine, wouldnt have changed the outcome, as I was planning to Black Rose then summon Armed Wing to attack for game.

Now Im thinking, great, game is mine, he has one face down, but even if he stops my Black Rose, I can fall back on other strategies using tokens and whatever I draw from Pot of Avarice.
Debris Dragon normal summoned. Okay.
Dandylion summoned. Okay
Synchro! Black Rose Dragon! Nuke!

He chains spell of pain.
"When a card effect ACTIVATES (key word kids) that deals damage to your life points, inflict that same amount on your opponent instead."
Hm. I see where he was going with this, and I believe the field spell's adverse burn effect doesnt 'activate' when it leaves the field, it just kind of...happens.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Brain_Research_Lab

None of the effects start a chain.

But this kid still chains Spell of Pain, trying to burn me for 5000 damage, which wouldnt have killed me, but would have killed him.
Just for argument's sake, even if he could have chained spell of pain to his field spell, the timing of the activation is when it LEAVES the field. When Black Rose resolves it destroys ALL cards. Therefore, the timing when the field spell activates, Spell of Pain is no longer on the field!
Yet he persists to argue that I am taking 5000 damage.
Little moron.
Every time I say something he cried, "Lies!" (>.<)
I explain every part of the chain, exactly what happens and the exact order of events.
Black Rose.
Boom.
No field at all.
Your field spell then burns you and at this point, no Spell of Pain. No!

Now...his best argument to counter the rules of this game was this:

"Hurr durr derpa Black Rose is like a meteor and herpa derp meteors destroy the FIELD before anything else! Hurradurrrrpa therefore I can use my spell card!"

He equated my BlackRose TRADING CARD to a meteor.
Physical meteor, not Meteor of destruction, the spell, actual space rock.
And not even meteorite, which is the actual rock as it connects with the earth, but meteor, the beam of visible light announcing the entrance of a meteoroid has entered the atmosphere.
Well, obviously, at this point I had no choice but to concede to this little prick. His intelligence and superb stragety completely overwhelmed me and I had to admit defeat.

Derp.